Interview with Chef Ming Tsai of Blue Ginger – Wellesley, MA and a recipe for Three-Bean Chili
Another very important organization that Ming is involved with is FAAN, the Food Allergy Anaphylaxis Network. As their national spokesperson, he has worked with the state of Massachusetts to create a new food safety law and hopes to bring further awareness to the rest of the country. Since one of his children has food allergies, he knows the importance of properly handling food in a restaurant for those people with allergies. There are an estimated 12 million people in the United States that have food allergies.
“We have the safest restaurant in the country (Blue Ginger) for people with food allergies and are busier than ever because of that. It is serious. Someone can die from this. If a guest tells us they are allergic to certain foods, we use new cutting boards, pans and knives” Ming also said that some people will say they are allergic, when they really aren’t. “We jump through hoops to keep them safe. We take it very seriously. If you just don’t want something like butter, tell us.”
Catering to people with food allergies has its business benefits as well. Ming said that most restaurant decisions are made by the person with food allergies, if that is a concern with a group of diners. The next restaurant choice is made by children, which was quite interesting.

Sharing a toast with Ming Tsai in Atlanta
So, what is the future of dining out if we are all cooking at home more, whether it is for health or allergy reasons? Dining out is not going away, it is just changing. “At the end of the day, it is all about the food, isn’t it? It’s all about people making food and people serving the food. It’s about the total experience. You can drop $5 million dollars creating a space and it doesn’t make it any better. It is all about the food and the service. It’s the whole experience.”
A question that I am sure Ming has received quite often over the years is why someone with an undergraduate degree in mechanical engineering from Yale and a Master’s Degree from Cornell would choose to be a chef. “After junior year, I knew I wanted to be a chef. My mom was great and told me to follow my dream and give it 110%. Dad said I wasn’t going to be a good engineer anyway, so go cook.”
My bet is that Ming could be successful at anything he chooses to do in life. One thing we know he is quite good at is golf. Mr. B played golf with him the day after this interview and while it was a tight match to the end, Ming beat him by one stroke. Mr. B is demanding a rematch.

Ming, this is for you. Mr. B is waiting for you at the tee. Game on. ๐
I have prepared several recipes from Simply Ming – One Pot Meals. Every one of them was excellent. I decided to share this recipe for Three-Bean Chili since I often get requests for vegetarian recipes.

Three-Bean Chili

Serve your chili with homemade cornbread sticks or muffins
The flavor of this chili was a real surprise with the addition of several Asian ingredients including fermented black beans, tamari sauce and edamame. It had the right amount of heat for us and was perfectly seasoned. I used homemade roasted vegetable stock which gave it a real depth of flavor. As Ming suggests, make extra and prepare it a day ahead since chili always tastes better the next day.

Topped with Greek yogurt and lemon zest, this will become a favorite in your home
Enjoy!

Three-Bean Chili
Ingredients:
2 tablespoons grapeseed or canola oil
2 medium red onions, cut into 1/3-inch pieces
2 tablespoons minced garlic
2 tablespoons fermented black beans
2 serrano chilies, minced
1 bunch scallions, sliced thin, green and white parts separated
1/4 cup wheat-free tamari sauce
2 cups shelled edamame
1 (15-ounce) can white beans, drained and rinsed
2 (15-ounce) cans black beans, drained and rinsed
2 cups roma tomatoes, roughly chopped, with their juice
1 quart vegetable stock or unsweetened black tea (I used homemade roasted vegetable stock)
Juice and zest of 1 lemon
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
1 cup Greek yogurt
Directions:
1, Heat a stockpot or other tall wide pot over medium-high heat. Add the oil and swirl to coat the bottom. When the oil is hot, add the onions, garlic, fermented black beans, chilies and scallion whites. Sauté until lightly caramelized, 4 to 5 minutes. Add the tamari sauce and deglaze the pot. Add the edamame, the white and black beans, tomatoes with their juice, and stock and bring to a simmer. Add the lemon juice and season with salt and pepper. Simmer until the mixture has reduced by one-quarter, 45 to 60 minutes.
2. Meanwhile, in a small bowl, combine the yogurt, scallion greens and lemon zest. Season with salt and pepper. Serve from the pot or transfer the chili to four individual serving bowls. Serve with yogurt on the side.
Recipe courtesy of Chef Ming Tsai
Simply Ming – One Pot Meals
Love this interview, Gwen!! So happy for you that you got to meet Ming and interview him…and Mr. B getting to golf with him!! Very exciting. Ming is such a great example of a great chef, great businessperson as well as seems to me all-around good person. He’s definitely someone I look up to…when I was growing up, there weren’t many Asian-American chefs to look up to. Congrats, again, Gwen! Love your chef interview series!
Hi Julie,
Thank you for the comment. I agree with everything you said about Ming. He was a pleasure to meet. He is incredibly talented and definitely an inspiration to others. I know Mr. B had a great time golfing with him in Atlanta.
Gwen
That’s wonderful that you got the chance to meet Ming. He seems so warm and easy going. I’m sorry to say that I haven’t been to Blue Ginger yet. Despite being fairly close, it’s far enough away to make it a bit of a challenge to get to. If you come, maybe that’s where we’ll go, since we’ve been dying to try it.
I too love his awareness to allergies, as my sister is highly allergic to nuts and it’s so hard for her to go out for any Asian cuisine.
Hi Brian,
Yes, Blue Ginger would be a great choice when we get to Boston (I hope this year!). If anyone has an allergy of any kind, Ming’s restaurant would be one of the best choices. He is obviously committed to making sure that everyone with any kind of allergy is safe when dining at Blue Ginger.
Gwen
Finally a chili recipe!!!! What are fermented black beans?
Hi Suddie,
I was thinking of you when I made and decided to include this recipe! Here is a video from Ming on fermented black beans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tiZQCntfh0 I have an Asian market a few blocks from my house, but if you don’t, this will tell you what they are and how you might find them.
You will love this recipe!
Gwen & Beamer
This really looks so delicious! Want to try this in my own kitchen…
I would love to try this recipe! I love that it’s vegetarian, and healthy! I’m always looking for delicious healthy recipes.
I had the pleasure of meeting Ming a couple of years ago when my hubby was nominated for an Emmy for the music he wrote for Today Show. Ming was a presenter at those awards.
He was so gracious (and so handsome!!! He rocked that tux!). Truly a nice guy.
Hi Susan,
How exciting! I am thrilled about your husband’s Emmy nomination. How did he do?
I am also glad you were able to meet Ming. Yes, he is very gracious and a real pleasure to speak with.
Gwen
LOVE Ming Tsai..what a marvelous chef and an equally talented chef! I had the pleasure of meeting him at his great restaurant Blue Ginger!
Chilli recipe looks delish!
Hi Sara,
I hope that we can get to Blue Ginger later this year. We keep trying to make it to Boston and can’t seem to find the time to make the trip.
So glad Ming was there when you went and that you had a chance to meet them. He says he is in the restaurant about 2/3 of the time when he isn’t traveling, etc.
Gwen
Another great blog post, Gwen. Ming Tsai is a wonderful person. I serve on the board of a local domestic violence organization, Ming and his wife Polly were ‘celebrity guests’ at a fundraising dinner at our home a couple of years ago. Both are equally engaging, entertaining, and warm individuals. Truly gracious.
We recently ate at Blue Ginger, and I was reminded why it’s such a huge success.
Hi Stuart,
Thank you so much for your comment. I am glad that you were able to meet Ming and his wife. I know that he is involved in a number of charities and that he enjoys supporting them as much as possible.
Roger and I are hoping to get to Boston later in the year. Maybe we can all meet at Blue Ginger if we make it!
Gwen
You know how I’m always spouting off about having to futz with recipes? Well, there is a list of chefs who’s recipes I’ve never, and should never touch, because they’re perfect every.single.time. Ming is one of those chefs. He’s been a favorite of mine for years – started watching him around the time I did Jacques Pepin. What a fantastic interview, Gwen. I will surely try his three bean chili and Blue Ginger is on my bucket list – hopefully more than once ๐
Lisa,
I totally agree with you. There are some recipes that just work and some chefs that have perfect recipes. Every one of the recipes I made from Ming’s book was excellent. This chili recipe was definitely one of them and I cannot wait to work my way through this cookbook.
Gwen
I had a guest instructor in my baking class one day who used to work for Ming. He owns a restaurant in Jacksonville called Blue Bamboo which Ming had a hand in naming. It was such a great experience, and I learned so much in class in that one short day. Made me wish I could learn from Ming myself!
Hi Jen,
I would imagine that anyone that worked or trained with Ming would have an excellent background. I also agree that a class or two with Ming would be incredible. Maybe we should look into that!
Gwen